“I think we Brits are a bit short on things to celebrate at this time of year,” DoneDreaming wrote when I asked what people might like to read about. “With Thanksgiving coming up I wondered if you could give us the lowdown on how we could join in. Do we Brits have what it takes to re-instate Thanksgiving over this side of the pond?”
Well, as every card-carrying American knows, the most important element in a Thanksgiving dinner is canned pumpkin, and—shock, horror, and I hope I don’t create in international incident here—it’s not sold in British supermarkets.
Okay, all you Americans who buy a prefab pie, settle down out there. I’m not bad-mouthing you or your pies or your dinners. My mother did the same and she was a wondrous and wise human being. Not a great cook, but if I had to choose between the two qualities. I’d go for the wonderful person.
Sill, those of us who pride ourselves on doing things from scratch load up on canned pumpkin and bake our pies with it. And somehow or other it never crossed my fuzzy little mind that dumping something out of a can kind of undermines the idea of from scratch until I moved to the U.K. and discovered that no one here had ever heard of canned pumpkin.
It took me several years (during which I begged our friend A. to make the pies) to work up the courage to kill, gut, and skin an actual pumpkin myself. I’m a vegetarian. My sensibilities are delicate. But the job needed to be done—I couldn’t impose on A. forever—and I not only learned to do it, I learned to take our Halloween pumpkin and cut it up and bake it the next day, turning it into pumpkin slurp. One vegetable, two holidays. Vegetarians of the world, all ye who proclaim that you don’t eat anything with a face, I tell you, this takes courage, because that jack o’lantern has a face, and it looks at you reprovingly from the cookie sheet as you shove it in the oven.
But let’s cut to the chase here: You bake a pumpkin, you scrape the slurp out, and you freeze it. Then a day or so before you make your pie you unfreeze it, by which time the water will have separated from the pulp and you can drain it off. Then you use either a food processor or one of those whizzy little blender sticks that are a whole shitload cheaper and you turn it to moosh—exactly the kind of thing you’d find in a can if only you could find a can.
And there you have it: canned pumpkin from scratch.
Wild Thing swears the pies taste better made from true scratch and she may be right. I can’t remember. But they work. That’s the main thing. Because you can’t have Thanksgiving without pumpkin pie. And no, I’m not going to offer a recipe. They’re all over the internet. Take your choice. But do serve it with whipped cream—a dollop on each slice.
The next thing you have to have on Thanksgiving is turkey (or for a small gathering, a chicken pretending to be a turkey). In the U.S. this is a cheap meat. In the U.K., for some reason, it’s crazy expensive, but since we only buy it once a year we just close our eyes and hand over the cash.
But I’m a vegetarian, you say. Yes indeed. But the rest of the world hasn’t come around to my way of thinking and for no good reason I draw the line at eating meat, not at cooking it. Purer vegetarians serve things like tofurky, which is tofu dressed up as turkey. Don’t ask because I’ve never tasted it. In fact, I’ve never actually seen it, just read about it. But its existence is a monument to how central the turkey is.
Back in the old days, you had to get up at 4 a.m. to put the turkey in the oven, because you had to keep opening the oven and basting the bird, which cooled the oven, which slowed everything down. Nowadays I use a magic non-melting plastic bag that keeps all the juices in so it doesn’t need basting and we sleep till a decent hour and feel like we’re getting away with something. The bags are probably ever so slightly toxic—who knows? I have a suspicious mind—but what the hell, we don’t use them often.
Thanksgiving’s a very patterned meal. You have to have cranberry sauce, although you don’t have to eat it. You have to have gravy, and ditto. You have to have potatoes—white, sweet, or both. You have to have a vegetable or salad, and you have to have something breadish, preferably rolls. We have baking powder biscuits—a nod to Wild Thing’s southern origins.
But more to the point, you can’t serve foods that aren’t part of the pattern, although we’ve thrown tradition to the winds for so many years now that it’s in tatters. Our tradition (and it’s not a traditional tradition, just something we’ve always done) is that guests bring a dish to add to the feast, and since we moved to Britain—well, the traditional meal has gone all pear shaped, to use a British phrase that makes no sense but that I love. People bring quiche and cauliflower and cheese and roast vegetables and chocolate cake and things that would have the Pilgrims—who American mythology holds started the tradition—accusing us all of heresy and witchcraft.
But, y;know, the Thanksgiving quiche? Why not?
The most important ingredient, however, is people—the more the better, in my opinion. Our party, sadly, is limited by the size of our house, so we try to keep a lid on it but each year we sneak in an extra person or two and it hasn’t exploded yet. More traditionally, people celebrate with the extended family, but we’ve never lived near our families and Wild Thing was estranged from hers for years, so we gathered up all the friends and acquaintances who were either far or estranged from their families and we made family out of that. It’s been wonderful.
Some families will stop and talk seriously about what they’re thankful for. Most will just eat. Many will watch the football game.
If you’re living outside the U.S., though, Thanksgiving isn’t a holiday so you’ll want to hold your party on a weekend, when people are off work. (Traditionally it’s on a Thursday, and no one who has to work the next day gets much done.) So you pick a random weekend late in November, because what the hell, it’s not the real date.
And then, if you follow the example I’m setting this year, you get the flu and have to postpone the party. In the U.S. if this happened you’d either go ahead, asking someone else to cook the turkey while you hide behind a closed door so you won’t infect your friends, or you’d move it to someone else’s house. Because Thanksgiving has to be held on Thanksgiving or it’s not Thanksgiving.
Outside the U.S., though? What the hell, it wasn’t on the real date anyway.
[Sorry, no irrelevant photo today because I really do have the flu and am putting this together on my toy typewriter, which doesn’t have any photos. Enjoy the holiday, whether you celebrate it or not.]
You are so right. The most important Thanksgiving ingredient is people and the traditions we hold dear.
The important in these turbulent times.
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Indeed.
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hehehe the from scratch thing always amused me.
I guess this is where my britishness finally comes into play, it is not from scratch unless the ingredients are in their most basic form that is sensible (I draw the line at milling my own flour or smashing up sugar plants)
I find recipes for stuff on the interweb which appear to be real baking but then turn out to involve cake mix from a box…
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Oh, yeah, there’s a lot of that going around. As long as you assembled two or more ingredients, it’s from scratch. I did one year have some hazy, romantic notion of growing my own pumpkins (a package of seeds had somehow wandered into my hands) but they got eaten by who knows what before they were more than the faintest promise of a plant.
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I have no problem with people using box things for cakes, I tend to use pre made pastry because my hands are too small and my pastry is always overhandled but people should be honest about it :)
I have had that thought before (although not about pumpkins) but my realism takes hold and I know I just don’t pay enough attention to growing things!
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I draw the line at milling my own flour, too. But we do have bees, and I always use honey in my pecan pie (which we have in addition to pumpkin pie, and sometimes apple pie)… :-)
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I’m with you on the flour, but I’m impressed with the bees.
My mother–a New Yorker to the core–must have had a weakness for pecan pie, because she always bought one for Thanksgiving, along with a pumpkin pie. (She was no more likely to bake a pie than you and I are to mill the flour.) So somewhere in the back of my head I halfway believe they’re traditional. I really should make one–not necessarily for Thanksgiving. Wild Thing loves them.
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We always had pecan pies for Thanksgiving when I was a kid. Then I learned how to make them, and tweaked the recipe with some wild honey that had gotten smoked when the men found a bees nest in a fallen tree. After that, it was my job. My husband would really like it if I made it more often, but we are middle-aged, and waistlines don’t permit the indulgence so often.
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Sad, isn’t it?
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ooooh! I wuold like bees there is a person near us who will put a hive on your land then come and do the looking after of them, so all you have to do is provide them with a home and things to stick their little be faces in! We have a few fruit trees so I can get my own apples, pears and plums.
But definitely no milling of flour!
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What a great idea. Everyone comes out ahead.
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It is isn’t it! We need to look into it a bit more but I think it is an awesome idea!
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So have you got bees at your place? They are lovely, and if you’re not poking your nose in their hive all the time, you’re no more likely to get stung than the average person.
Since I became allergic to bee stings, we have to keep all our bees on other people’s property. Currently they’re all too long of a drive away, so we’re looking for places closer to home again…
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I know several people who either keep or kept bees, but I’ve never been tempted. It’s one of those things I think is wonderful for other people to do.
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I know several people who either keep or kept bees, but I’ve never been tempted. It’s one of those things I think is wonderful for other people to do.
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And if you wonder why I’m repeating myself repeating myself, so do I I I .
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No we don’t have any at the moment but are thinking of getting some :-D
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Go for it!
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Hello Ellen,
As to the turkey: what about stuffing/dressing?
I hope you’ll get well soon,
Pit
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Confession: I gave up on stuffing some years ago. I’ve never made one that anyone likes–including me. For years, in Minnesota, someone else made one everyone loved and brought it over early so I could get part of it in the bird. After we moved here, I made it once and no one ate it and I thought, why bother? The turkey cooks faster without it.
Stuffing in the U.K. comes as hard little balls that you could put in a slingshot and break windows with. Why they’re called stuffing I don’t know, since they’re not stuffed into the bird.
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I think we’re going to have turkey WITH stuffing [but soft, not the lead-bullet type ;) ] – if we’re going to have turkey at all. That depends on if we have guests. Just foer my wife and me a whole turkey would be too much.
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Truly.
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I think Waitrose carries canned pumpkin. And maybe Aldi, in their seasonal items. It might be worth googling other grocery stores for it – just in case.
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I’ll check. My stock for this year is already fruz, but I wouldn’t mind having a few cans on hand in case the impulse to make pumpkin bread strikes.
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This was a fun post. Great description, especially killing and gutting the pumpkin. Our celebration is small and most guest are not eating meat, but I am. I will usually grill a turkey breast outside. That frees the oven for other items and I only like white meat and I’m the only meat eater, so…
I have to draw a sharp line between me and one of your thoughts. A dollop is not an acceptable measurement for whipped cream. Sorry, but if you can still see the top of the slice of pie, you haven’t added enough whipped cream.
Also, if you have gravy and you have southern biscuits, you have the very reason we fought the Civil War (to prevent loosing access to biscuits and gravy). If ever there was a foodstuff to be thankful for.
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I won’t argue with your measure of whipped cream–in fact, I love it–but sadly I won’t follow it either. But there was a time…. As for biscuits and gravy as the true reason for the Civil War, it’s worth exploring. But as a New Yorker who bakes a mean biscuit, I have to say I could’ve saved them some bloodshed.
Although I’ll admit that my gravy’s never risen above adequate.
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A constant source of humour and wit. ‘Pear shaped,’ has been used for as long as I can remember but giving it some more thought, I really don’t know why we say it at all. Perhaps it has something to do with the bottom being wider than the top and no, that doesn’t make sense either.
I’m not a turkey lover but given that I eat chicken every day of the year, a turkey suddenly sounds interesting and somewhat of a delicacy. Perhaps I’ll have goose.
I live in a house with a vegetarian and a fussy eater. There are always 3 different meals on the go and the Aga is often bursting at the seams with an array of meat, tatties, veggie stuff, fish and something left over from last week that is neither man nor beast but charcoal.
Sending tissues and hugs and gentle hugs. Wrap up warm, sleep the sleep of all sleeps and look forward to the Thanksgiving that isn’t really Thanksgiving because it’s not on the actual day of Thanksgiving.
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Now that comes from a woman who knows how to send good wishes. I’m curled up with a cat and a computer. I think I’ll trade the computer in for a book pretty soon here.
I’m convinced–for no good reason–that pear shaped is all wrong because everything should be shaped like an apple. But–well, let’s not try to get logical about this.
Love your description of the Aga–and that you can distinguish between a vegetarian and a fussy eater.
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Absolutely. I’m dipping in and out of books at the moment and it’s very much a reflection of my current mood and a distinct lack of energy. I’ve come down from the post apocalyptic jelly bean eating session and hit a bit of a bottom – not a pleasurable kind of bottom. Let’s not go there. Tonight’s dinner was no less interesting than any other night. Youngest son is on a high fat diet to help him gain weight and he’s taken this to a whole new level of ice-cream inspired recipes. Ice-cream and the Aga do not mix well and the ice-cream inevitably comes off much worse despite trying all of the four ovens. There was a fish for the vegetarian who eats fish as long as it doesn’t appear to look anything like a fish – fish fingers are a staple of their diet. Broccoli was steamed as is always the case and tonight was my first night for introducing into my diet once again. I wanted slightly mushier broccoli and the vegetarian with a penchant for fish fingers, wanted more erect florets. We settled for somewhere in between. I warmed what was left of my chicken and bacon and scorched some sweet potato fries. Youngest son wanted home made chicken broth with chick peas and broccoli that was neither erect nor mushy. Needless to say, we all managed to eat without any great calamity. The chicken looked like chicken, the fish did not look like chicken or fish and the broth looked like broth.
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I’m nominating you for sainthood.
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Ellen, I’ll be right behind you in the queue. Don’t I have to be a guy to get one of those? I don’t want the female version, whatever that happens to be, even if it is pretty and comes with a chocolate coating. I want the masculine, hairy version
Every day is like a re-enactment of some farce. I’m contemplating writing a whole series of articles on the life and loves of my Aga. I may need to hire myself a secretary….now there’s an idea. I possibly require a maid more than I require a secretary but both would be ok in my book.
Are you getting regular bed baths and pungent ointment type things to clear your nose and warm your chest? This is best done by a competent individual, in possession of their own teeth and neatly trimmed finger nails. I’m not entirely sure why the teeth are important but I’m certain that I once heard that this was necessary. One wouldn’t want to find them at the bottom of their bowl of broth, along with 2 week old charcoal and putrified ice-cream.
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If the realities of my unwashed self hadn’t already driven me to the bathtub, that thought of the broth and the teeth would’ve done it, thanks.
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As long as your bath water didn’t end up looking like broth then I think it’s safe to say that you aren’t in need of that nurse just yet.
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Right. And I think we’d better stop here. It’s getting too scary and–have you no pity?–I’m a sick ol’ lady.
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So that’s why no irrelevant photo: so sorry you have the flu, hope you get over it … in time for Thanksgiving! pumpkin pie sounds a bit complicated, We have a tradition where the stuffing (which doesn’t go in the turkey) comes from colonial times – Puerto Rico, Philippines, Spanish cuisine influence, a sort of pan-cooked hashed meat with onions, olives and raisins. Pretty different from Puritan taste buds,huh?
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The Puritans would’ve been sure Satan had had a hand in that kind of stuffing. Sounds amazing. Pity it has meat in it.
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yes, it’s a tasty mix, sorry no way to substitute the meat, too basic for the desired taste!
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Great post. Friends, family, traditions and good food are what it’s all about. Oh, and making someone else do the cleanup. Happy Thanksgiving, Ellen.
I hope you feel better soon – nasty flu!
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Oooh, you slid that in neatly: making someone else do the cleanup. I almost didn’t notice it.
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I can soooo see the jack-o-lantern glaring up from the cookie sheet – that was worth at least a trio of lol’s.
Hope you shake your flu bug soon!
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Thanks. I hope so too. I am so tired of myself.
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This brought back so many memories. Thanksgivings at your house in Minneapolis. I believe my job was to bring stuffed mushrooms. But that may have been Christmas. I also remember hauling canned Pumpkin across the pond the year I visited and fantasizing that you’d form a cabal of canned Pumpkin devotees who would pay me to bring suitcases of it every fall. My dad once funded a Russian relative’s visit with a suitcase of blue jeans, then sold on the black market there so there is a nutty logic behind the fantasy. Oh, turkeys are now expensive in Minnesota because they got the flu too only there were tens of thousands of them in turkey barns and the Departments of Everything made the farmers kill them. I trust that Wild Thing will look after you and protect you from such extremism. Try not to gobble and have a lovely holiday when you recover. xflo
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Your stuffed mushrooms were wonderful. Probably still are. You wouldn’t want to send me the recipe, would you?
I hadn’t known that about the Great Turkey Plague. Poor miserable creatures. Apparently they’ve bred the brains out of them to the extent that they’ll stand in the rain, open their mouths, and drown themselves. Or so I was told. It could be vegetarian propaganda. I’m being well looked after and just have to wait this thing out, thanks.
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Yup, I’ll send you the recipe. It’s not so much the breeding as the crowding. You put 10,000 of anything that breathes in a small space and when one of it gets sick, well, there goes the neighborhood.
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No fair! I was totally going to blog about this too. I’ve been having visitors smuggle in illicit pumpkin cans for years. But now I have a new solution that (win/win) also provides endless entertainment—the “international” foods shelf at Tesco. Did you know they have an “American” foods section?
I can’t decide if their interpretation of American food is scary, insulting, or kind of comforting. Probably all three. BUT the good news is that pumpkin is found in its proper form—packed in Libby’s cans and ready to rock your Thanksgiving feast.
Actual photo documentation:
If I can save the life of even one innocent jack-o-lantern, my work here is done.
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An innocent jack o’lantern? I thought they were about scaring the bejeezus out of us. Ah, well, let’s not argue. Your intentions are pure. The problem is that American food hasn’t reached the local supermarkets’ international shelves yet. Rural Cornwall is–well, rural. Maybe we don’t have enough Americans to make it worthwhile. But if I’m ever up your way, I’m stocking up.
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Additional thought: looking at that photo and comparing it in my mind to Mexican food, Indian food, Chinese food, you wouldn’t think the U.S. has contributed much to world cuisine, would you? Where’s the barbecue sauce? Where are the dark chocolate chips? Where’s the pancake mix? (Not that that’s the best way to make pancakes, but I’m arguing here for fair representation, not great cooking.)
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You’re both welcome at the Hobbit House any time you need canned pumpkin or (vegetarian!) haggis.
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That would be lovely. Although I’m not so sure about the haggis, vegetarian or not. What’s it really taste like?
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To me it tastes like a well-used sweat sock. But others would disagree…
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Well then, how could I turn down an invitation like that?
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Absolutely. I’m changing the sheets now.
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If we’re going to be formal I may have to–gee, I don’t know. Wash the car so we have a moment of presentability before we step out?
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Tofu turkey seems like a very bad idea.
This is the first year in my adult life that I’m not cooking a thing. I phoned in a reservation for 10 at a very nice country restaurant. It’s the most thankful in advance I think I’ve ever been!!
You’ll feel better [sends perfect imaginary tea] any minute now!!
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Tofu turkey’s one of those hardcore vegetarian ideas that gives us all a bad name–and a good laugh. Hope you enjoy the holiday. Sounds wonderful.
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Feel better! Great post!
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Thanks. I’m on the (slow) mend.
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Sucks to be sick. Studly has some weird thing going on right now with his sinuses. I’ve offered to bash him over the head to see if that does any good. So far he’s turned me down. Might need to proceed when he’s not looking.
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That used to work with pinball machines. It just might work for him.
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Exactly!
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I have some weird saline solution in a can that one can squirt into the nostril at high pressure. It’s comical and who doesn’t like bubbles appearing from their nose?
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Who indeed. It may become the new flash mob sensation.
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I’d almost pay to see that!
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I dunno. Paying to not see it might be wiser.
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Truth!
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I could probably manage to snap a photo as the bubbles emanate from one of my nostrils. It wouldn’t be a pretty sight.
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And then you could use the photos to blackmail yourself. This is a great money-making strategy. And since no one other than yourself is harmed, it’s gotta be legal.
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Oh god. The worrying thing is that I’m actually considering taking the picture in the first place. Where is that nurse?
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The nurse just ran out the back door. We’re on our own here.
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What? Just the two of us? I had a thought about how you might sweat out all the nasty bugs.
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Truth? The only way to get rid of the flu is to give it to someone else. Tag-you’re-it.
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Well that’s not very pleasant at all. What if I don’t want to be it right now? I’m immune to flu but I’ll happily take it from you and pass it straight on to someone who deserves a big dose of nastiness. I know jut the person. I was going to suggest one of those latex suits. Just think of the benefits…..I’m struggling to think of any but you’d sure as hell sweat the buggers out.
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It sounds like you could make good use of a case of flu. Wish I was immune.
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Well, I’ll just pass on that!
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Reblogged this on Praying for Eyebrowz and commented:
She just always writes great posts! One of my favorite bloggers, Ellen Hawley at notesfromtheuk.com.
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Thanks once again, NanaN.
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Always a pleasure. Even friends on Facebook who barely speak to me due to my liberal leanings enjoy your posts.
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My, my. Have they taken in the full outrageousness of my life and politics? I mean, I’m glad they do enjoy them–the last thing I want is to have everyone here singing the same old tune–but, oh, life’s full of little ironies, isn’t it?
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See, I don’t think they “get” the big picture. I’m introducing them bit by bit to you.
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[insert maniacal cackle]
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We are a devious bunch.
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You do know that somebody’s going to take this seriously, don’t you?
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Oh, sure. Part of the fun.
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Well, yeah.
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I do hope you feel better soon.
Mr Pict and I have been celebrating Thanksgiving almost as many years as we have been together, so at least 20, and only the last two were in the U.S. We, therefore, did the whole weekend Thanksgiving thing and ate, drank and made merry – all to keep him and then our kids connected to their American traditions, of course; the gluttony was just a side benefit. Only once did I make the pumpkin pie from scratch though and it was so much scutter that it was both my first and last time. I would also say it tasted no better than shop bought. We would, therefore, get visiting Americans to bring us a can before November – though we could also sometimes get it from an American food shop near the naval base in Dunoon. I was just putting together our Thanksgiving menu a few days ago and it’s interesting to compare it to your list, where it crosses over and where it diverges. Happy Thanksgiving!
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And a happy Thanksgiving to you. It does change a holiday, doesn’t it?, when people around you are also celebrating. I don’t entirely understand it–maybe it’s the herd instinct in us–but it does seem to be true.
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I love Thanksgiving in America precisely because it’s unifying. Everyone is celebrating, unlike the religious or more culturally specific holidays. And the fact that everyone is off work means my husband can also relax and properly down tools so it’s uninterrupted good quality family time. With feasting.
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The only sour note, for us, was that Native American friends get understandably shirty about the holiday and don’t find a whole lot to be thankful for. And I do understand that. But so little in our world is unmixed, so acknowledging that, we still went ahead and held our celebration.
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I suppose that is true generally and it’s important to place the ritual of Thanksgiving in its wider context. My husband and kids are Mayflower descendants so we are all well versed in the injustice that followed the colonists being rescued from starvation, the reneging on agreements and the conflicts of King Philip’s War. Just as we secularise Christmas in our household, so to do we really detach Thanksgiving from its origins and think about it more as a reflection on the things we are grateful for.
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When I was a kid, we inevitably made construction paper pilgrim hats and what we were told were Indian feathers in school at this time of year. At home, though, Thanksgiving was just a time to get the extended family together in a New York apartment that was too small for that many people so we could all eat too much, the adults could work their way into a (usually) political argument, we kids could run through creating mayhem, and the aunt who’d quit buying cigarettes could try to bum one from an uncle who said he’d be happy to give her one only he knew she didn’t want him to. (They could keep that game up for hours.) So separated from its origins? Definitely.
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Happy Thanksgiving, and feel better soon! G-uno
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Many thanks.
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My husband did the whole from scratch thing, but didn’t puree the pumpkin- just mashed it. Made for a lumpy, stringy, but fairly good-flavored pie. Just couldn’t get past the texture thing.
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Yeah, it turns out the pumpkin’s a stingy old beast. I tried a vegetable puree-er first, which was useless, and am now a devotee of the whizzy blender stick.
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I think that Thanksgiving is such a wonderful concept. We should spend more time being thankful for what we have.
What feels like a zillion years ago, and when I was living in Johannesburg, I had American friends: an intern at the school where I was working, who had been at Columbia and was heading, via South Africa, to law school, and who hailed from Kentucky and two former Peace Corps queens, one of whom hailed from Chicago and the other from Ann Arbor. Hannah had the tin, er, can of pumpkin sent to South Africa and I had the task of preparing the meal. What a dinner we had, and everyone, especially Don and Patrick had huge appetites, but we still ate pumpkin pie for at least the next month. The recipe came off the side of the can, and I’m told that it lived up to expectations notwithstanding that not only was it my first and only attempt, I’m not even remotely American and had never tasted pumpkin pie!
That means that we do have turkey for Christmas (also costs and arm and a leg here, and usually come from Brazil)…. More of that to come as I contemplate this year’s menu….
Happy thanksgiving and get better soon!
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Thanks, Fiona. In theory I like the idea of a holiday where we pause and think about what we’re grateful for, but in practice it tends to turn into a vague and un-felt gesture in that direction. So I prefer the honesty to gathering people in sharing food. Something about that never does become un-felt.
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Agreed. And I think that’s why it resonates for those of us who don’t do it. A bit like Christmas has become for some.
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I’m so sorry you’re sickly. My chest cold has turned to pneumonia–the audacity!–and I’m also so sick of myself I could murder a pumpkin. Or just cough on him.
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I’ve only just figured this out, but here’s the absolute truth about being sick: The only way to get better is to pass it on to someone else. I don’t think a pumpkin’s going to work–it has to be a human being.
Sorry. It’s ugly but it’s true. Wishing you health and an available victim.
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Hope you’re better soon (‘flu’s nasty – had it twice in one year a few years back).
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It is nasty. And just before this hit, I got a letter inviting me to get a flu shot and ignored it because–oh, you know how it is–I’m invincible.
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The ‘flu jab isn’t guaranteed to prevent you getting ‘flu, but if you do, it probably won’t be so bad as if you hadn’t had the vaccination. My company provides ‘flu injections for free for all those who want them. They encourage staff to take up the offer, on the grounds that it hits their business badly if employees go down with ‘flu en masse (and it costs them in sick pay – more than the injection costs).
I recommend you go for it next year!
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I had meant to get one but I was too busy to take the half hour or so that I’d have needed to get there and back, so I thought I’d take a week out of my life and get sick instead. It’s much more efficient.
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Yep, that’s what I normally to – put it off till another time. I thank my employers for offering the flu injections every year, because that does prompt me to do something about it. I’m not sure I’ll remember/be bothered once I’m retired!
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That’s the problem.
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So here I am, leaving a comment on my own blog, which is one step up from hitting Like on my own blog. But Patricia left a set of questions on Facebook and if I don’t add them here, I’ll lost them: Topic: is retirement as hard in UK as it is in USA? If you are middle income here it is getting to be such a struggle and then the politicians threaten Medicare and Social Security every 5 minutes. Paul Ryan has just gotten another reduction approved. What are your thoughts on the TTP?
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Great prospective on Thanksgiving! You’ve pretty much hit the nail on the head – it’s mostly about the people! But of course the food is awesome too..we serve tofurkey in additional to the bird at our Thanksgiving since one of the 25 people invited is vegetarian – and now all the kids eat the tofurkey too – I’ve tasted it and it’s not bad (but I think I’ll stick the original) – So, from us to you – Happy Thanksgiving and get better soon! :)
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Thanks, Linda. And thanks for a report on tofurky. I’ve never felt the need to add in a main dish since I can more than fill up on everything else, but it’s good to know it’s–well, as you said so moderately, not bad.
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LOL! Too true…
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I introduced pumpkin pie to my English friends a few years back and it is now my most requested dessert. I used to get the cans off the internet or via friends in the US, but since Walmart bought Asda, I’ve found it there the last few years.
Since I met my husband I’ve booked the day off work and we’ve celebrated via Skype, I’m looking forward to he day I am able to celebrate it properly in the US.
My addition to the traditional meal will be bread sauce, because turkey isn’t turkey without it, I think it is entirely possible that I will have to eat it all when my step children taste it, but that is never a hardship for me.
Get well soon! :)
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Thanks for the good wishes. They’re very welcome just now.
Introducing Americans to bread sauce will be as much fun as introducing the English to pumpkin pie. My experience with that (pumpkin pie and British friends) is that people almost creep up on it for the first bite. Pumpkin and pie? It’s all wrong. It’s dangerous. It could spring out at them. And then they like it. Or claim to like it. Maybe they’re being polite. We always have other desserts as well, so it doesn’t matter.
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Well that was fun. :-) I often enjoy reading through the comments when I get to one of your posts late nearly as much as the original post. We’re doing T-day next weekend, so I’m thinking about the pre-prep now. Well, actually, I’ve already done some of the cooking ahead, and frozen a few things… Hope you’re better soon.
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Yeah, the comments are great. I never know where they’re going to take me. You’re impressive, having so much done in advance. I’m hoping I’ll be up to a major blast the day before the party. I’m on the mend, but it’s slow and I seem to have captured somebody else’s voice. Whoever you are, if you’d like yours back so would I and I’m happy to trade.
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I haven’t actually done as much in advance as I used to, in a weird backwards effort to take some of the pressure off. The uber-advance prep must date back to that year I had my primary-school aged kids with me in France, and was determined to do a ‘proper’ American Thanksgiving to combat homesickness in a seriously under-equipped kitchen. One two-burner hot plate and a toaster oven. No freezer–heck, I’m not sure if we had a fridge by that point, though we did have a cold storage room–so I could only pre-prep stuff that wouldn’t spoil in 3 or 4 days. And we had guests! Life is so much easier now…
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It has to be hard to cook a turkey in a toaster oven. Oy, the pressures we put on ourselves.
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I have never thought of making pumpkin pie with canned pumpkin as not being from scratch but it defiantly is! I don’t think I am brave enough to try and gut a pumpkin . . .
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I never thought of it that way either until I discovered that no one in Britain ever heard of canned pumpkin, never mind sold it.
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Reblogged this on Dream Big, Dream Often and commented:
This is Notes From the UK!!
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Many thanks.
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My pleasure!
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Wow! That’s unbelievable. Although, I’m not that much fun of pumpkin. Anyway, I rather prepare some sweet potatoes pie which I make from scratch. For my family, the bake turkey and ham, along with the sweet potatoes pies are the hit. We could do without the ham, but as the pies? No way!
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Ohhhh, sweet potato pie. I haven’t had that in years. I should see if I can’t find a recipe. When the holiday comes, have an extra slice for me, would you?
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Lol You will still need to use one can of pumpkin with it, so you might have a challenge to find that as well.
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I’ve gotten good at substituting free-range pumpkin for the canned stuff. No challenge at all–just surprise that sweet potato pie includes pumpkin. Who knew?
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I can totally relate to your situation! I live in Mexico, and celebrating Thanksgiving can be pretty tricky. We also have the canned pumpkin problem, but Mom hads been butchering jack-o-lanterns remorselessly for years, so no problem there. Turkey is also expensive here, and during one or two leaner years we’ve had to settle for chicken. Also, we always have to have dinner on the weekend, but who cares? Any day is a good day for stuffing yourself with food. Get well soon!
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Thanks. We celebrate tomorrow, and I think I’m up to it. What part of Mexico do you live in?
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I live in Mexico City :) I’m not sure when we’ll be able to celebrate here, but I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving celebration.
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I was there briefly–oh, a hundred or so years ago. Not long enough to know the city at all. But I spent some time in Xalapa, Veracruz, which I learned to love.
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I love Xalapa!! I hope someday you’ll have the chance to come back :)
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That would be wonderful. It’s been an age.
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I loved this post! And you are so on the money – Thanksgiving takes a completely different turn when you are living abroad. In fact, I think I love it more now than I did in the US – there is just something special about celebrating it abroad. We, too, celebrate on the weekend – school and work make it impossible to do it on Thursday. And not sure if you have any American stores there, but ours sells the canned pumpkin ;) I still had to make the pie from scratch though even though the pumpkin part wasn’t technically since I took it out of the can.
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We live way out in the country, so no American stores to be found. At this point, I’m used to making the pie from a genuine pumpkin, so–oh, why lie about it, if canned were available I’d probably use it but at least I don’t fret about it anymore.
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I have found since living abroad, I’m “forced” to make a lot more from scratch than I ever did living in the US… And I hate to say it, but I now prefer it this way!
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We get so used to processed stuff that half the time we don’t know it’s possible to eat any other way. I remember the first time someone told me she was going to make applesauce. You can make that? I thought. I swear I half believed it grew in a jar.
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The Canadians (at least the ones near Michigan) celebrate Thanksgiving in October. Perhaps the Brits could piggyback on that. Empire and all. It also has the advantage of not being forgotten in the Christmas sales.
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I’ve seen Canadian Thanksgiving on calendars and from that limited bit of information assumed it was a Canada-wide celebration. Not, mind you, that I know what I’m talking about.
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Happy Thanksgiving, Ellen! I’m an American in Scotland, and I never feel more weird than on Thanksgiving. As Barb says, Libby’s is here now, and I found it years ago at an American import shop. Made one last year, but burned it. Suddenly feel among friends. <3
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We still have a party, but each year one more piece of the tradition disappears. The year I noticed that one one piece of pie had been eaten (an it was on my plate) I decided to forget the pie. Then we had to move Thanksgiving to–I think it was February the next year and couldn’t get a turkey but a cafe in the village makes what everyone swears is wonderful pork, so we asked if they’d make some for us. And there went not only the turkey but the cranberry sauce, because who eats cranberry sauce with pork? Besides, it was February. No chance of buying cranberries. One year, there was a long, drawn-out mouse hunt involving one cat and a dog. At the end of it, I swore that it was what Americans really do on Thanksgiving. The next year something mousely took place again. And a couple of days ago, the current cat and two dogs were in hunting mode, so we really may make a tradition of it.
A happy Thanksgiving to you, and I’m glad to meet y ou.
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Lorna, I tried to visit your website and got a message saying it’s not a valid path.
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Thank you, should work now. If it’s through the reader, that’s wonky and might not show posts since I went self-hosted.
Current link is here: https://ginlemonade.com
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That works. It wasn’t through the reader–I hate the WP reader. I used the link you had in your comment.
How’s your experience of self-hosting been?
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Lyrical Host are excellent. They do the migration and technical stuff. Free resources sent to you every month, and a facebook group. It’s like a really knowledgable family. I wrote about them here: https://ginlemonade.com/2017/12/06/how-i-upgraded-my-blog-with-lyrical-host/ and there’s more info on their pop up shop til tomorrow with other resources here: https://ginlemonade.com/2018/07/30/blogging-resources-for-real-people/
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Thanks. As soon as we get the house (not to mention ourselves) back to something approaching normal (we had our annual off-kilter Thanksgiving party last night), I’ll check it out. I’ve returned all the dishes and pans that were left. The only mystery is one black and white dish towel.
A happy late Thanksgiving to you and yours.
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You, too. Take it easy. :)
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Will do. Couch. Cuppa tea. Leftover dessert…
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